My dogs are not trained at all,although I have seven of them. Yes I understand that is a big number and hard to manage, I need to get them trained as they do not listen to me or anyone else when they go outside they tend to take off and we have to sit there and scream at them to get their attention. If dog training wasn't so expensive I would actually look into finding a place where they teach both the dog and the owner on how to give commands and what sort of voice to use,how to work with them at home and everything like that. Seems like some of the stories with people using dog trainers they didn't work out all that well, as far as the situation with the boxer in a previous post, I don't think that it is the woman's fault honestly,it is because they themselves were not trained on how to handle the dog together when they should of been both there and present through all the training courses.